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Duotrope to Become a Paid Service in Jan. 2013

Journal Entry: Sat Dec 1, 2012, 9:51 AM
UPDATE 2/2/2012: Duotrope has just issued a statement via Facebook.

For all those writers out there who are seeking publication and rely on Duotrope to find their publication venues, heads up: on January 1, 2013, the site will require you to buy a paid subscription in order to access the majority of their features.

The subscriptions are $5 per month, or $50 for a full year. Those who do not subscribe will not be able to search, look at submission deadlines, or use the submissions tracker. You will be able to see a limited profile for the various publications listed there, but not the acceptance/rejection statistics.

The Found Poetry Review has started a petition asking Duotrope to consider having the listed publishers pay fees as opposed to the users.

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LuanaSpinetti Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Honestly, I'm not pissed by the fact they're now charging for memberships, but by the elitist approach they've chosen: why users and NOT publishers?! In an ideal world, both the parties should pay for membership, even more so since users (authors) rely on smaller budgets than publishers. It makes sense, after all, if you consider that author=worker and publisher=employer.

I can't approve of this course of action. And having donated in the past, I wish at least they would make a 'first year free' kind of promotion for those users who donated.

Bah...
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012   Writer
I agree, it would be nice if they made it a bit more egalitarian -- the fact that authors aren't exactly made of money nine times out of ten was definitely the point of a petition that had been circulating, asking Duotrope to consider having publishers pay to be listed instead. But I guess this is how it's going to be. :hmm:
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fallenidle Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional Writer
So freaking lame. I'm glad someone's started a petition about publishers paying, Matt and I said that as soon as we heard about this. Just...ugh.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Writer
:nod: Yup. Besides the fact, ^neurotype pointed out that Duotrope, while it may be the best in its class in terms of interface, isn't even the only one out there offering similar services, and the rest of them are free. I feel like in the long run, joke's gonna be on them.
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thetaoofchaos Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Writer
I actually had no idea there was such a site. I thought everyone had to wade through these massive lists of ezines and publications themselves. Thanks for the info.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Writer
No problem! I actually have a small listing of a few more, similar databases here, if you do a Ctrl+F for "Find literary journals": [link]
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thetaoofchaos Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   Writer
Thanks!
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Also, found this.

[link]

Duotrope prooobably should've made sure they were the only thing in the market before acting like they were.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012   Writer
:rofl: Oh, that's too good. There are other, similar free databases out there, too -- they probably can't boast the comprehensiveness or ease of use of Duotrope, but it's definitely not impossible to find similar services. Also, people have been noting that Publishers Marketplace is always free at the library, and is cheaper yearly than Duotrope's subscription, so, megafail.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha, yeah. Also, when I was looking for a market for my horror fairy tale, Google was better. (Anthologies, yay!)
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012   Writer
:lol: Never underestimate the power of the Googles.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Seriouslydude.

Also, $40 and a free print copy isn't terrible pay for a couple thousand words. FAKK U DOTROP.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012   Writer
:highfive:
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Snapperz Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
FUUUUUUUUCK THIS NOISE. I am annoyed now. Thanks.


PS. I adore the Xmas Ice Cream. When did this happen?
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
You and me and loads of other people. Le sigh. I just copied & pasted my favorites into a Word doc for safekeeping.

:giggle: Thank you! A few years ago the blobby holiday things were all the rage, so now I just keep bringing it back every Christmas. `MyntKat made it for me. `LadyLincoln has one too.
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Snapperz Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
I am so not motivated enough for that. I tried doing that during my IMDBpro trial, decided it wasn't worth it when I got busy with my script again (plus it's wayyyy too hard trying to figure out whose info is worth looking up), and just ended up coughing up $12/mo for it. I think it's worth it, if only to stalk people who have anything to do with my script. The thing with Duotrope is that it is SO user-friendly and completely idiot-proof with the search system, so it's fantastic to have around, but I only use it once every six months when I spam out a round of cover letters. I guess I would pay for a one-off month, but really? So annoying.


It's so cuuuute. :giggle:
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
If you have favorite magazines you can just hit copy/paste and it even carries the links over for you. :lol: But I'm lazy, too, so a lot of the venues I have on there are ones that I might not necessarily want to submit to now, because I saved them all from like three years ago when I started sending my work out. You can always look at NewPages or something, but it's not nearly as nice an interface as Duotrope's, sadly.

I know, I want to squish it. :lol:
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Snapperz Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
True that. :/ I usually tend to have a load of different magazines come up for every submission though. Not much consistency. Of course, I keep all of my acceptance/rejections I have received in my email, so at least I will have all the magazine names that I have sent to before at hand.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
That's true. I'm just going to have to stumble across new ones based on what other people are submitting to, and who they're affiliated with. Like Wikipedia-hopping.
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Snapperz Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012   Writer
:no: Guess we'll see how easy or not that ends up being.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012   Writer
Yup. :bucktooth:
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
this makes me glad i don't care about being published. just another bunch of asswipes looking to make a buck and fuck writers over. so much for them being legit -- they ran the site for years free, what changed?
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PinkyMcCoversong Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Professional Writer
They relied on donations to keep it free, I think they haven't gotten enough donations in the last year or so. Kind of makes sense, considering the economy.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012   Writer
well, i'm doing what i gotta do before they go tits up.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
No kidding, I'm really pissed off. What makes me even more mad is the fact that they seem to not have considered other basic means of revenue first, like putting ads on their site -- and if they did, they're not explaining their reasoning, and with so many users, it would definitely be nice to hear their methodology for this.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
so much for them, i guess. someone will come in, take their place, do it for free and do it better. tumblr also has resources in their publishing tag.

sheesh, TotalFark is $5 a month. that would be better use of my money; at least i'd be entertained!
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
Yup. I haven't actually checked out what's available on Tumblr enough, I should look into that.

:nod:
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
it's a tag i check at least twice a day. lately it was full of nimrods and their nanowrimo progress, hopefully that will be over soon.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
:lol: Thanks for the warning, I'll take a look in the coming week then.
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raspil Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
i'm sure this will be a thing that is all over that tag now with people tripping out. of course, there are some writers there who don't even know duotrope exists (how that is even possible, i have no idea), so it will be an interesting week.
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
:nod: I think it's only just been announced, and they haven't even sent out an email to all their users yet -- I only found out because I stumbled across a post on Facebook by chance, so they're already not doing very well in the transparency department. Once it really blows open there's going to be a whole shitstorm of complaints, definitely.
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zebrazebrazebra Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional Writer
Relevant: [link]
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SadisticIceCream Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   Writer
Ooh, thank you.
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